GM Just Threw Away the Chevy Camaro
Scotty Kilmer:
rev up your engines, GM says that the six
generations Chevy Camaro z/28 program
has been cancelled all right now for the
car guys out there that are the muscle
cars
there have been rumors going around that
they're not going to be making the
Camaros in the future they don't have
any particular plans that they have
set in stone with it there's even some
rumors that they're gonna make an
all electric cars which may be what
they're going to do they're canceling a
sixth generation I'm assuming that they
are gonna stop making Camaros they
stopped making the things a few years
back and then they brought them back
again they had a bunch of quality
control with the ones they were making
in Quebec and so then they just stopped
making them entirely I mean those are
terrible machines in the end I had them
where the wiring harnesses would go out
to transmissions and blow up and they
brought them back again I who knows
maybe they'll just eventually have them
only as an electric car and shelving the
production of any sixth generation
Camaro kind of tells me they yeah
they're maybe they're thinking about
making the mental electric cars only
time will tell her that but you're
obviously thinking about getting rid of
Camaro is a muscle car by not producing
these, ash says hey my wife has
an old ML 320 it's forty eight thousand
mile keep it and driving myself for
selling wife wants a new car
forty-eight thousand miles isn't much if
you haven't had problems with it it
hasn't been wrecked flooded or stolen
you might as well keep it you said it's
an old one if it's an old one it has
virtually no value nobody wants to buy
an old Mercedes the resale value was
cramped but with 48,000 miles generally
don't fall apart until they are over
100,000 miles so what the heck you got
it why not use it for your car and then
get your wife another car obviously
you'll put that many miles on the cars
it still could last a while cuz you
getting nothing selling if it works okay
now what the heck I personally wouldn't
buy one but you already have it so you
might as well driving around you'll get
much for it if you try selling it, Bologna is
there any way to buy nitrogen to fill
your tires yeah oh that's kind of an
interesting subject matter realize that
Earth's atmosphere is already something
like eighty percent nitrogen dress is
about 20 percent oxygen some trace
elements but
about 80% nitrogen already so what
difference does it really make if you
have a 100% nitrogen you tires or 80%
for years people tried to sell me as a
mechanic at my shop systems that purify
the nitrogen in our atmosphere and turn it
into almost a hundred percent
nitrogen and filling the tires with
because theoretically it doesn't oxidize
inside and the temperatures don't affect
it that much when they change hot or
cold or they do use nitrogen I believe
in like the jet airplanes because
they're up at 50,000 feet and it gets
really cold there and the pressure the
tires would keep going up and down for
them and it makes sense but you're not
driving your car at 50,000 feet out
there so you know if you can find a
place that sells the stuff go right
ahead but far as I'm concerned you're
mainly wasting your money on that stuff
for a car that you're driving every day
nobody's approached me in the last year
trying to sell me one of these stupid
nitrogen systems and it cost thousands
of dollars so so if anybody has one
they're gonna charge your pretty penny
to fill up your tires cause hey they had
to pay a bunch of money for the stupid
machine
Daniel pina says hey Scotty is the 2007
f-150 a reliable vehicle these days
yeah the previous owner took care of it
2007 f-150 is pretty reliable vehicle
they're much better with the v8 sixes meh
any vehicle if you're talking about
buying a used one have a mechanic like
me check it out before you show your
money out cuz you don't know something's
wrecked flooded stolen there's all kinds
of things you can go around and with our
fancy machines we can tell I spend about
an hour checking out used cars I just
checked out a used car for a guy this
morning you know it's a fourth of July, I
forgot
he made an appointment so I got up
there anyways they can't be great good
cars but you want to make sure there
isn't a problem in it in the first place
cuz you're not gonna get a guarantee
demon says Scotty I got a
2005 Chrysler Sebring Convertible with
eighty two thousand miles my first car
any thoughts baby that thing that was a
big lemon Mobil that they made the v6
engines those things were terrible it's
still running it's 82 thousand miles
let's say it runs and it shifts good now
baby it you got it it's a convertible a
lot of times people think of verticals
are worth money but convertibles aren't
because everybody knows there were
terrible cars but you gotta take care of
a change the oil every 3,000 miles don't
overheat the engine don't race it don't
peel off
pretend you're a little old lady driving
that car and maybe the last one I got
some little old lady
drive them and they're still going okay
because they drive slow but all the men
that I knew that drove them hard they
all burn out either the engine or the
transmission or both, so if you never
want to miss another one of my new car
repair videos, remember to ring that Bell
The 2019 Chevrolet Camaro Is a Horrible Mistake | Carguments
Jalopnik:
Fix your sweater, you've got
your undershirt poking out.
Oh my god.
–Yeah, we can start over.
Edit that out.
Yeah, edit that out.
Hello, and welcome again to “Carguments.”
The show where we argue about—
We're not arguing, we are carguing.
–We're cargu—
We are carguing.
–Where we cargue about the cars.
Yes.
–What we do here, on “Carguments.”
Yes.
I am Patrick George.
This is my horrible car son, Mike Ballaban.
We have bad news.
One of the best sports cars,
the Chevrolet Camaro—
We have good news:
It looks good!
–They unveiled a new
one this week, and it—
–It looks fine.
–It looks tragic, it looks tragic.
–It looks fiiiine.
–They really messed it up.
I believe
the new face of the Chevrolet
Camaro is a horrible mistake.
My colleague Mike Ballaban
thinks everything's fine.
OK, granted,
I'm not gonna tell you it's the
best-looking car of all time.
The best-looking car of all time,
we all agree, is the Saleen S7.
However, what is wrong with that?
It looks like a car.
It's just a car.
It's all grille.
It's all grille now.
They just cut off the front
of the old Camaro,
–This is not all grille!
and put this flat-faced—
–No.
With these tiny little—
–No.
headlamp slits, and it's all grille.
–No, OK, first of all,
the last one had tiny
little headlamp slits then.
They're even tinier now!
–I didn’t hear you complaining.
But second of all, every car’s
got a big grille face now.
–That's the problem!
That's a bad thing!
Toyota Camry's got
a big grille face,
Audi's have a big grille face,
they all have big grille faces.
What's wrong with this
big ol' grille face?
Well, if everyone was—
all your friends were doing DMT
and jumping off the bridge,
would you go do it too?
Just ’cause everyone’s doing something
doesn't make it right, Mike.
I mean, DMT does sound
kinda nice right now.
Ah, it is—it is Friday.
It would make a lot
of the cars look better,
but not the Chevy Camaro,
'cause it looks fine already.
I have issues with this car.
I think that they went
overboard with the grille.
They've taken the grille,
which is supposed to be part
of the front of the car,
and made it the whole thing.
It's all honeycomb,
it's all black plastic.
And I don't know if this is just 'cause
these newer turbocharged
engines just need so much air
to stay cool all the time.
And it's like the whole thing
just has to be a hole.
You're missing the point.
The Camaro used to be a
muscla car, or a muscle car
as some people pronounce it,
but they're wrong.
It is now a sports car, right?
Muscle cars were meant for the drag strip.
You would have one shot.
It would be like, “Ah!”—done.
Right?
But now they're going on tracks,
they're under sustained loads
for long periods of time.
You need cooling.
And how do you tell everybody
that your car is fast and needs cooling?
More grille.
This is an advertisement to the world:
“Look how fast I am.”
And even better, even better!
This signifies you that you just might be
in a four-cylinder 1LE.
Which—we used to think
the V-6 1LE was probably
the best Camaro there was,
but no, now it's the four-cylinder
because less power is always better.
–That's the thing about
the Gen 6 Camaro—
it's actually excellent.
It's one of the world's
best performance cars,
at any level.
So you've conceded
already, it's excellent!
Good, done.
Until they ruined the looks of it.
I’ll tell you what happened here.
–It looks fine!
I'll tell you what happened here.
So the new Gen 6 Camaro,
the one that came out a couple years ago,
looks the same as the
old Camaro, the Gen 5.
It's completely new under the skin.
New platform, new engines, new everything.
They tried to make it look different,
and then all the Camaro focus
group Camaro boys were like,
“Nah, it's gotta look the same,
it's gotta look low slung,
gotta look like Bumblebee, yeah,
gotta build the same.”
–The best part about that is, apparently,
so I don't know if you
remember, fifth-gen Camaro?
Impossible to see out of.
–Impossible to see out of.
–It was a danger!
And GM was like, “Don't
you want more visibility?"
And they were like, “Hell naw.”
And they made a very
fundamental and fatal
mistake when they did this.
It's because when
Americans buy new cars,
they want it to look
like a new car.
They want their neighbor
Tom to see the car and be like,
“Well, damn! That sure is
a nice new car you've got.”
And if Tom doesn't say that,
why did you drop 40 grand on a car?
So they're like, “Holy crap,
we gotta do something different,
make it look different,
do something, anything,
make it look different
than the old car."
And that's what they came up with.
They gave it to some intern one weekend,
and he just cut the whole nose off,
and they were like,”Send it.”
No, I mean, Americans
don't want new cars.
They still want—did you
miss the entire period
from, say, 1998 up until yesterday?
When all they wanted was retro cars?
Do you remember the PT Cruiser?
That was like a handful of cars!
And the Ford GT, which everyone
said, “Oh, it looks so great,”
but Ford really just
took some tracing paper
and just made the GT 40 again.
Yeah, the Ford GT's terrible.
It's just terrible, Mike.
–But that's what I'm saying!
People don't want new
cars, they want old cars.
Sometimes I pray a
meteor will hit the world,
so that we don't have to hear
your bad opinions anymore.
This is a great marriage of
old and new, much like myself.
And therefore, it's good.
It's a good-looking car.
You're welcome.
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The Future of Chevy Camaros
Scotty Kilmer:
welcome to wacky Wednesday's, where
everyone has a chance to show off their
car mods, and here's this week's winner
this is my 2018 Camaro SS, this car
either takes me to work or to the drag
strip and I'm currently in the drag strip,
if you want to see more of my races
please subscribe to my channel,
it's right there, this is a 1 SS package
but I do have the active mode exhaust,
I have Brembo brakes with 20-inch wheels
a staggered set which means the rear are
wider than the front, let me show you
what's under hood, and black cars man
they're so hard to keep clean
the hood vents are functional which is
nice, and voila
a 6.2 liter LT1 455 horsepower
this car has apple carplay, android auto
it's an 8-speed automatic transmission,
with paddle shifters, I rarely use them
there's a lag factor I don't like, let's start
it up, not all the
gauges are digital at least 10 years for
now something breaks I can see how fast
I'm going
and you can toggle through a few apps
and performance settings and whatnot
lateral acceleration, zero to sixty
timers
I disable a few of them, I never really
use them but there cool to have, another
cool feature is you have different
display settings, there's 3 of them
and I do it every month or so and it
feels like a drive a different car it's
kind of neat, here's the other one that I
like, it;s neat I really like that
feature, anyways I said previously
mentioned this car is equipped with the
active mode exhaust which through the infotainment
you can make your car quieter
or louder, I live in a condo complex and
my neighbors would hate me if my car
was constantly loud,
I really like this feature
or you can sync it to your drive mode
and it will change based on your driving
mode, on tour it's quieter and sported
track gets louder, it's a must have on a
loud car, the vents are kind of
neat here are the controls for
the temperature and air flow
anyways let's see how this car sounds
again this car is my favorite driver
it's got about 10,000 miles so far and I
race it a lot,
I believe the six gen Camaro is an
amazing performance bargain, thank you
all for spending a few minutes to check
out my car and thank you Scotty for
having me in your channel I'm a huge fan
and everyone remember to race the track
not on the street and thank you here's a
few more clips
well that was this week's video and to
have your car mods shown on my channel
here check this out, so if you never want
to miss another one of my new car repair
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DETAILS | 2019 Chevrolet Camaro Refresh LS LT SS & 1LE Interior & Exterior
Sideways at 11:
Surprise Surprise everyone I'm Danny
with Sideways at 11 and today
Chevrolet unveiled to the world the
newest in the Camaro line the 2019
Camaro SS LT & LS models along with a
first ever turbo 1LE model
So I just wanted to take a moment before I start
so you can take a good look at the car from all angles
So what do you think?
make sure to vote at my poll above
Now on to the details. Firstly design.
although you may or may not like the new
design of the Camaro it was designed
with performance in mind everything from
the front grille the hood the vents were
designed for optimized air flow wether
to help cool or to help with
aerodynamics you can spot right away
that the front has been completely
overhauled everything in the front
fascia has been tweaked including the
headlights the led accents grill hood
and like previous models there will be
differences between the SS LT LS and
other sub models couple of things to
know the SS models will come with a
float I design grille emblem and Aero
enhancing air curtains it will also have
its own unique design - its LED
headlamps and a different hood design
with extractors style vents the rear has
also been revamped with new rear fascias
for all models cars with RS and SS
packages will have specific diffusers
when equipped with a dual-mode exhaust
option the taillights have also been
redone with new dual element designs red
lenses are featured on LS and lt models
with rs/ss with the zl1 variant
featuring dark tinted natural density
lenses a new 20-inch wheel design is
also available on RS and SS models so
let's talk about horsepower since I know
you're all interested in what's new the
SS models retains the 6.2 liter LT1 V8
that produces 455 horsepower and 455
foot-pounds of torque so nothing new
there the 1LE track oriented variant
of the SS model is also available and
similar to the previous model with
similar upgrades which
offer more than 1 G cornering capability
as an option to the SS models the LS and
lt models come with a standard 2 liter
turbo 4-cylinder that puts out 275
horsepower and 295 foot-pounds of torque
or an optional 3.6 liter v6 which
remains the same at 335 horsepower
there's also a new track oriented one le
package added to the family and that is
to the turbo four-cylinder model where
previously it was only available on the
SS and v6 models this adds a slew of
performance improvements to the car like
previous SS models which includes
suspension tire brake and interior
upgrades involving materials like micro
suede or Alcantara along with new tuning
modes like Sport Trac and competition
modes Recaro seats are also available as
an added option to the 1LE cars on
the inside there are three available
infotainment systems the highest tier
version sporting an eight-inch
touchscreen which is designed to mimic
smartphones and tablets with cloud
connection designed to enhance
personalization available navigation
voice recognition apps and more are also
available a new rear-view camera comes
standard on two SS and zl1 packages and
offers a wider less obstructed field of
view using a camera display that
eliminates potential obstructions such
as rear body pillars or seat headrests a
conventional rear view mirror view is
also available for all of you who have
owned the performance data recorded
system on previous models this has also
been enhanced for the new model so what
do you think of the new 2019 Camaro do
you like the new looks please be sure to
let me know in the comments below and
please be sure to subscribe to my
channel for more coverage on the new
Camaro and other car related stuff see
you all next time
Camaro - Everything You Need to Know | Up To Speed
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Camaro? What chu got in there? 7 liter LS
with big cams blower popping out the hood. Bet that thing’s fast as hell. Dang thing’ll blow
the dang doors off a dang import no problem.
Can I get a ride in it?
Camaro, it’s angry, it’s stylish, it’s
bold and it's loud!
From Chevrolet’s point of view, the Camaro
was born out of necessity. From conception
to execution, it was created with one purpose
and one purpose alone.
To destroy the Mustang.
This is everything you need to know to get
up to speed on the Chevy Camaro.
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It looks good, it's really well engineered.
Speaking of really well engineered let's talk
about Camaros.
Chevy entered into the 1965 model year looking
to to overtake Ford in all their categories,
and their plan was 3-fold...
They introduced their Chevelle to compete
with Ford’s Falcon.
They completely redesigned the Impala
and
And they made them both available with the
race inspired Super Sport package.
The nimble Nova and the new Chevelle outsold
Ford in the small and mid-sized market, and
the ‘65 Impala dominated the full size American
Market. They sold over one million units.
A million. One comma, zero-zero-zero comma
zero-zero-zero. And as far as I can find
that record still stands.
Full-size, check. Mid-size, check. Small car
Uh check…
We won all of the three categories am I right boys?
WRONG.
What?
Mustang.
Ford debuted the Mustang in 1964, and created
an entirely new class, the Pony Car. How could
Chevy beat Ford in a class that we don't even
have a freakin car for?
Guys when we talked in January we said we
wanted to beat Ford in every class.
Who was on this? Seth I can't fire you 'cus you are
my brother and I love you but I am mad and
I'm not sitting by you at dinner tonight.
Here’s a surprise, like almost every other
two door sports car we’ve talked about on
this show. Someone at a competing company
saw a mustang and was like
“Dang dude, that’s a good idea. We need to do a car like that.”
Without delay- the same year, Chevy Head Bucky
Knudsen.
Laughs
The guy in charge of Chevy Bucky Knudsen took
the guys responsible for the record setting
Impala Irv Rybicki and Henry Haga, and told
them to make a new car that would beat the Mustang.
Chevy codenamed the project “Panther,”
and the team prioritized aggressive, sleek design
a wide wheelbase, and sport inspired
performance.
Then, in 1966, Chevy set another record-
this time for the biggest phone call ever,
Chevrolet general manager Pete Estes, announced
the Camaro on a 14 city conference call with
the press. He says the panther is dead, long
live the Camaro. Click. Straight up hangs up.
Everybody in the press is like "I think a Panther
died? What is, what is a Camaro?"
Happened, Google it.
Estes said that the name Camaro evokes the
camaraderie between man and machine
thank you
He also claimed the name was French. It’s not French.
When pressed about what the name Camaro actually
means he slyly responded, “it's a small, vicious
animal that eats Mustangs.”
Estes is the weirdest dude ever.
This first generation Camaro was released
in 1967, and it took everything that was great
about Chevy’s aggressive new styling in
the Impala and Chevelle, and turned that sh*t
up to 11.
(Engine revs)
It had a recessed grill, innovative
front and rear fenders and was available with
up to a 6.5 liter V8. With a Supersport, Rally,
and a Z-28 Packages, the Camaro, from its
inception has been associated with performance.
Ah yes, the iconic Z-28 performance package-
we’ve all seen it- but what does it mean?
Nothing. It’s just the internal Chevy
RPO code for the package. Does it mean anything?
Cars are fun.
The Camaro was an effort to compete with the
Mustang but Detroit’s a small town, and
Ford, aware that Chevy had something up its
sleeve, redesigned their mustang to receive
a bigger engine too. Even in its first year,
the Camaro, while an impressive, cool little car
was playing catch up to the mustang...
Again to compete with the Mustang, the second
generation Camaro came out three short years
later. For 1970, it got wider, pushed the
headlights outside of the front grill, had
a faster looking rear end, and a more prominent
rear fender. This is the fish face that people
love or hate. You know who loved it? Road
and Track Magazine. They named the 1971 SS
350 as one of the 10 best cars in the world
that year. And finally the Camaro outsold
the Mustang, though only a slim margin of
one thousand cars.
I mean that was close.
The Camaro, because of its origins, will always
be compared to the Mustang, but having outsold
it in 1970, it could now develop an identity
of its own.
Chevy was fine with the Mustang being as American
as Apple Pie. Because that meant the Camaro
could be as American as ROCK AND ROLL!
The 2nd gen had quite a few facelifts through
its 11 year run. Just like my little brother Tom.
Rest in peace. Most notable were the
variations to the grill. The Camaro kept getting
more Camaro-y, and while still competing with
the Mustang, it wasn’t in the “hey Mustang
buyers, maybe you’ll like this” way. You
now bought a Camaro because you wanted a badass
Camaro.
(Rock music playing)
The third-generation Camaro rolled out for
the 1982 model year.
Look, the 60s Camaro looked like the 60s,
the 70s camaro looks like the 70s…
and the 80s camaro? I mean freakin look at this thing!
It’s as 80’s as Reagan and Bush, or crimped
hair, or doing cocaine with your boss. Which is
apparently a thing that I totally missed out on.
In 1985, for my birthday, the Camaro was chosen
as the official racecar for the International
Race Of Champions (I R O C)
IROC IROC Ooohhh
and to commemorate,
Chevy rebranded the Z28 as the IROC-Z.
Jean jackets everywhere rejoiced!
The "20th Anniversary Commemorative Edition"
was offered in 1987, as well as a "25th Anniversary
Heritage Package" in 1992 .
Camaro. They like anniversaries.
The fourth-generation Camaro debuted in 1993
on an updated F-body platform. It retained
the same characteristics since its introduction
in 1967: a 2-door body with 2+2 seating and
an optional T-top roof or convertible.
In 1998, the 5.7 L LS1 was the first all-aluminum
engine offered in a Camaro since 1969
and this one made 325 horsepower.
Ok I know everyone, like the LS is starting
to get like uh oh my God it's so boring. But,
it''s a freakin all aluminum V8 that's the
size of a loaf of bread.
Weights less than a B16.
If you don't like LS-swapped cars you're a
hater. Don't be a hater.
The Camaro was still pushing that aggressive
reputation, but after 2002, production of
the F-Body platform was discontinued due to
slowing sales, and a deteriorating market
for sports coupes.
The Mustang was finally free to prance fancifully
across the roads of the American Countryside
without fear of the being stalked by a Camaro.
Until… in 2010 after an 8 year hiatus, a
totally re-designed, retro-inspired
"brand new” Camaro made its triumphant debut.
Finally, it was Ford’s turn to play catch-up
the 2010 Camaro SS had about 100 HP more
than the Mustang GT. That’s not even a fair right?
That's like me fighting any man on Earth.
If you want to fight me I'll put twenty-thousand
dollars cash on it. You let me know in the
comments, we'll set up a time and a place.
The only rule is it's to the death and your
kids gotta watch
The car looked great… It looked new and
it wasn't like, “HEY, I’M A CRAZY CAMARO!
LOOK HOW CRAZY I LOOK!” It was meticulous
in design and remained true to its 1967 origins.
It handled better than ever, and could outpace
the mustang on almost any track.
On April 1, 2010, the Camaro was named the
World Car Design of the Year at the World
Car of the Year Design Awards.
What the f**k.
And the winner is, the Chevrolet Camaro.
Is this real? Anyway congrats, we did it guys!
And the experience of driving it? People love
it. It was lighter and more nimble than the Mustang
and in 2016, the Z28 returned, and
made 505 Horsepower!
MotorTrend's 2016 car of the year is the all
new Chevrolet Camaro.
It was motortrends car of the year.
And today, 2017. Happy 50th Camaro. The 50th
anniversary edition had unique interior styling badges.
It’s 200 pounds lighter than
the 5th gen, and the 2018 ZL1 drops about
60 pounds more. Add to this the optional 650
horsepower? I’m telling you- it’s a small,
vicious animal that devours Mustangs. And
sometimes it turns into a robot and saves
Shia Leboof and Megan Fooks.
From it’s inception, the Camaro has had
one job and it has done it well. It was designed
to rival the Mustang, and aside from an 8
year sabbatical, it has been doing just that
for over 50 years.
That's everything you need to know to get
up to speed on the Chevy Camaro.
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The Camaro is an American icon
And this generation particularly has been receiving rave reviews since it debuted in
2016 but now it's three years later and Chevy wanted to freshen things up. So it's making a Transformers inspired
transformation
Of course
we wanted to specially thank our friends at Sutherland Chevrolet for providing us with this fully loaded Camaro SS and
If you're in the market for any new Chevy, be sure to pay their dealership a visit or check them out via their website
Which we provided a link to in the video description
So with the Mustang recently gaining some ground over the Camaro sales wise, let's see if this refresh will change the tide
Alright so let's go ahead and address the elephant in the room right off the bat this grille
Now in pictures, I will say that it's less than flattered
But in person it does look much better
Especially when paired with a dark exterior color like this Riverside blue metallic
Non SS models also have a more traditional grille if you want to go that route
But anyways with that out of the way the headlights have also been redesigned
They are now fully LED on all grades of the Camaro and the previous accent light has been expanded to flow into the grille
Below that there is another LED accent and then on top SS models get a special hood bit
There hasn't been any changes to the side but the back did get some subtle refinements
The main thing is that the taillights have been separated again just like they used to be from the 2010 to 2013 models
They of course are fully LED and they have a really neat look with both amber and clear elements
SS models also have the really large spoiler. But thankfully my favorite part has not been changed
And that is the quad stainless-steel exhaust outlets pumping out that wonderful v8 burble
But overall despite some initial
Misgivings, the refresh Camaro is still a nice looking vehicle with a lot of lighting upgrades over last year
Now one of the other SS perks are standard 20-inch wheels
These are the included wheels, but there are at least nine of their options
Ranging from only $200 all the way up to three grand
and
four breaks
13.6 inch for piston bimbos are included up front and
13.3 inch ones in the rear
Moving to the mirrors you have to get this 2SS to have goodies
Like heating auto dimming and blind spot monitoring with rear cross traffic alert
Now we still don't have any other active safety features, but for 2019 we do now have forward collision warning on the 2 SS
Just be aware that Mustang does offer a full active safety package
The last thing to look at is the very generously sized 19 gallon fuel tank
Obviously fuel economy isn't great. But the big tank does still allow you to get 380 miles of range
Chevy does recommend using premium fuel in the v8
So that's it for the redesign exterior, so now let's go ahead and get inside and see what they've done in there
So every Camaro does come standard with Chevy smart entry system
And you will also find a standard remote start system. As long as you choose the automatic transmission. I
Like pretty much all GM vehicles, there's not a sensor behind the handle so you just press this button to unlock
And
Then looking inside the cabin you'll see there's not a great deal of changes for 2019 here definitely a lot less than on the outside
But the cabinet here is already a very very nice place to be now as far as the interior materials and color schemes
They also have not changed for 2019
So your base SS continues to come with black or gray cloth seating and then going out to the 2 SS gets you leather in
black gray
adrenalin red
Kalahari or my personal favorite the ceramic color was very classy looking
And then turning over here to your door trim that same nice look continues over here
So you've got more of that ceramic leather on the armrest here, which looks really good
Although it might be a little bit hard to keep clean
we've got even more leather up here as well as down here and then you've got a real piece of
Aluminum that goes around through here with your accent lighting integrated into it
As far as your windows, there are one touch automatic up and down and you also find two person memory seating on the two SS
As far as the seat it is an eight-way power adjusting but you are lacking lumbar support
And then like I was saying the seats they have a really excellent look and they also feel really high-quality
with nice bolstering nice accent stitching as well as your SS branding and
You can get a Recaro seat if you prefer something a little bit more aggressive
So, like I said at first glance around the cab and you won't notice any big changes from last year
However, there are some little details hidden around the cabin
Now one of the things that has not changed were the materials which were already excellent
So across the top of the dash you do have a heart touch plastic as expected
But once you move down to your lower area, so you've got a leatherette trim with color contrast stitching going
down even further
You've got some more leatherette where you need my touch as well as on the armrest portion and everything does fit together
Really really solidly and feels well built
And standard on all Camaros you do have push-button start
When you turn it on you will see an 8-inch display fire up on all of the SS models
versus the seven-inch display that's standard on your v6 and turbo for
But of course that right there is why you buy a SS
Now another nice benefit of going for the SS is that it comes standard with this
Upgraded gauge cluster with the large 8 inch display in the middle
Now for those of you have been watching this channel for a while
You know that I really like these GM gauges because they have a lot of functions and a lot of customized ability
On the Camaro. It's no different. You've got all the standard functions. Plus you've got this performance tab
This gives you a bunch of different information
Regarding your oil temperature pressure
voltage transmission fluid tire temperature a lot of useful things for performance situations
And then additionally you still get your standard fare options where you can change things like the theme
So you can switch over and go into technology mode. For example
And give a kind of a more high-tech look
To go along with that with that, on the 2SS you're gonna have a heads up this way
Now this also is customizable and adjustable you just press this info tab and switch to your miles
Per hour radio functions navigation and various other things or you can leave it here
Which is the probably the coolest one shows your rpms as well as the G reading so that's pretty cool
And then coming back here to the steering wheel
Thankfully Chevy did not change anything here because this is already a really lovely steering wheel. We've got a nice flat bottom design
contrast
contrasting and perforated leather stitching
And it just feels really really great in the hand
Now as far as your buttons, you've got your cruise control as well as your heating and then on this side
You've got your controls for that display as well as your typical phone and voice commands and below. You've got some radio controls
Back behind the shifter you will find paddle shifters
If you get the automatic transmission, of course and then the wheel itself is manually tilt and telescoping
I know this is not your main concern when you get a muscle-car, but let's talk about the storage
It's actually decent
If you have a pretty large for muscle car center console
So I've got enough space you can fit a phone or something else small
You've got your two USB ports and an aux jack right there
Confirm that you've got your two cupholders
As well as a 12 volt outlet
And then you can maybe put something up here as well. Although it's not really designed to hold anything
So for a muscle car believe it or not this pretty decent
Now, of course we do have the automatic transmission this is optional on the SS
So just like any automatic you pull back to drive and pop over to the left to select your gears manually or via
those paddle shifters
When you go into reverse a backup camera is standard
It does have active trajectory as well. And I think the resolution has been upgraded this year
It looks a little bit nicer than what I remember looking like last year
And then of course there is an electronic parking brake as well
I like you to expect from any good muscle car. You've got a host of different drive modes to select from
Now what it's been in so far during this review has been tour mode
However, you can go down into sport and that immediately even here at Idol you can immediately tell that the engine no changes everything gets
more aggressive
Then you can go into basically a full manual mode where everything is off for track use and
Then you get a snow and ice mode just to kind of help you try to navigate
different situations if you try to use this as a Four Seasons vehicle like some people do
And then this button defeats, of course your traction control
Alright, so now let's talk about the unique climate controls
These are dual zone automatic on the two SS
And of course what's unique about them is you've probably seen on previous Camaro reviews is that you adjust the temperature by twisting around?
the vent and you
Can see that temperature show up right there. I
Really like this, I think it looks excellent
and it's easy to use easy to understand the only drawback I can come up with is that
Say you have it. I had in our really high temperature like I didn't which was high 90 degrees
You kind of have to stick your hand into the belly of the beast
so to speak and burn it up a little bit to make that adjustment, but overall I think is really sleek looking and I
Like it a lot
Now also on the 2 SS you've got three-stage heated seats as well as three stage ventilated seats
Also on the two SS you've got the upgraded audio system
So let's go ahead and take a listen to the Bose 9 speaker sound system
Overall sound quality is excellent, especially for such a small cabin
That brings us to our first
2019 change or the most significant that is
Which is our upgraded Chevy LT man free system. So let's go ahead and take a quick look around this system
As you can see this has got the upgraded graphics as well as the upgrade of processing and everything in the backend
So you've got your homepage. You've also got some shortcuts along to the bottom and a home button as well as physical one below it
Now you can click on any of these sections to expand them
so for instance
We can click on our navigation which is a $500 option as you can see it loads up Chevy's latest navigation
graphic graphic quality here and performance is excellent much improved and this map doesn't even include things like your
Map tilt which is a pretty cool feature
Heading back here to our applications
You've course got your standard audio controls where you can play and pause through your standard bluetooth
As well as your other audio sources and then your presets across the top
And do I want to mention your phone
That's your keypad as well your contacts which are automatically sync over and there are awesome. That's text message support as well
Like every Chevy product you have a standard Wi-Fi hotspot powered by OnStar and
You do have standard Android auto and apple carplay
So you do have the ability to have navigation through Google or Apple Maps without having to pay that extra charge for the integrated navigation
if you don't want to
Now one of the other nice 20:19 changes is that your accent lighting has been upgraded further that already was super customizable
And really nice set up before but now you've got these split blended color rows
so as you can see, you've got your solid colors and
of course that takes the whole strip and make some one color, but if you go into one of these blended modes, so we'll do
this one right here as
you can see now our
Top part of the accent is a different than our bottom part
So it gives it a really unique look and you just have a ton of different options available here to choose from
But anyways, that's pretty much it for the Chevy infotainment system 3
However, we will have a more detailed tech help video available
For those of you who want to learn more a link said that is provided in the video description
Heading on up here to the mirror initially this does look the same as last year. However, it is actually not
Look this switch and you've now got GM's
rear vision camera system
Now you think do I really need this for a car so small since it's typically in trucks and SUVs
But as many of you know, the Camaro struggles with rear visibility and nothing has changed in 2019 in that regard
So the back window is still very small and you can still see very little out of it
So this definitely helps and cuts out all the obstructions
Integrated within this you do also have your home link universal remotes and
Then above it you get your OnStar buttons as well as LED light
This particular model does not have a moonroof. However, it is optional if you want one
But overall the small refinements that Chevy is made for 2019 simply make this an even better place to spend time
this is a cabin that feels everyday livable even though this is a performance vehicle and
Honestly, I just don't have any complaints about it. It's luxurious
It feels pretty spacious and so long as you can get past, you know, compromise visibility and stuff like that
This is definitely a car that you can be comfortable with living with on a day to day basis
Now we'll go ahead and hop outside here and let Mason check out the rest of me
All right, so getting in the back seats of the Camaro is pretty easy
So you just fold this seat back forward and then slide it with the power seat
Now once you do you won't have an entryway into the rear seats
now, of course
These are pretty cramped as with any muscle car and their technical
Measurement comes in at twenty nine point nine inches of legroom and thirty three point four inches of headroom
That does make it pretty much class competitive. Now, you will notice you have to climb over the seat belt. So just pull it down
Then you can climb right in
Now my first impression back here is actually a pretty good one now the seat is scooted all the way forward
So this is obviously more like room than the average adult would have
But I'm actually really comfortable these seats are buckets in the back still made that two-tone beautiful design and they're actually really comfortable
Here in the middle. You have another two-tone black leather here as was a little storage tray
And then off to your right you do have an armrest though. It is not padded
But overall
You don't really expect much out of these rear seats and Headroom is lacking of course and as well as you know
really like room but
This is not really that bad of a place that's really competitive with the class. And I really like that the seats are comfortable
Now to get out just go ahead and fold that up push it forward and climb right up
Getting around to the trunk, all you have to do is locate the button under the lid and it will pop right open
Now inside this is one of the spaces where the Camaro is smaller than the Mustang so you're going to find
9.1 cubic feet for the coupe model dropping down to 7.3 cubic feet for the convertible now
Like I said, that is smaller than the Mustang since it has 13.5 cubic feet
However, this is actually pretty big it goes back quite a ways and it does look pretty deep to me
You could probably fit quite a bit of stuff back here. Maybe a couple weekend backs and
The opening is pretty good-sized
Now, of course the passenger seat is that beautiful design with SS branding
In this model, it is two-ton as well as six-way power adjusting on all SS
I'm really pleasantly surprised with the materials in front the passenger since you do have a leather area up here
close up at a dashboard and
Down below that you do have a good sized glove box opens quite a ways
And above that you do have a Sun Visor with integrated mirror and lights that gently fade in
And it does also detach an extent
Well guys that sums up all the boring stuff
So now let's go ahead and get to the real reason you buy an SS the powertrain
So like we've already talked about this refresh is mostly cosmetic
However, there have been some adjustments to the powertrain still as far as the main part of the powering the engine it is unchanged
So we still have the lt1
6.2 liter v8
putting out
455 horsepower and
455 pound-feet of torque and
That's good for a 0-60 under 4 seconds, which is just about in line with that of the Corvette
What's different this year is that you've got a 10 speed
automatic transmission to replace the 8-speed automatic if you choose to go that route or
You still have the six-speed manual if you want the more purist experience
Now, of course in a vehicle like this fuel economy is not your biggest concern. However, we do have cylinder deactivation on the v8
So you still get a decent 20 mpg combined
Now believe it or not. This car can go up to 25 combined
If you go for the 2 litre 4-cylinder engine and that's really impressive for a performance vehicle
But anyway, so that sums up our basic
Powertrain information. So let's go ahead and go for a quick test drive
Now of course this is not my car
And it's very cold
Out there ice on the road and the tires are very cold. So it's not gonna be like a super exhilarating
burnout drag race
Donut type of test drive but we will get a little taste of just how nice that engine sounds even at low speeds
I mean, that's really why you buy the SS because you're not driving
you know the
Throttle matted all the time actually most the time you're not going to be because this is just a ton of power
So even when you're just driving casually around town
Whatever, it just sounds fantastic and that to me is just the biggest reason to get the SS
So in case you're wondering this is a fun car even a 25
It's just it's really irresistible
To just a goose that throttle listen to that exhaust note and I you would enjoy this at any speed and
Also, I think the notice is that you capture everyone's attention when you're driving down the street in this thing
It's a captivating blue color and all that noise. It's making everybody will be looking at you
Now, of course we're not gonna have any meaningful impressions for you know handling at the edge or whatever
Because this has capability that there's no way I'm gonna be able to test out
But uh
You know, you can't tell of course the steering is excellent very commutative
Super fast right now. We're in the sport mode. That's what I think most owners would want to stay in just to
make sure you get all the entrance note that you can get all the time and
Keeps that steering and throttle response as sharp as possible
And let's play around the manor moer just a little bit before we return it
Wow
Flip that throttle Wow, just excellent I get home. I'm gonna see why anybody would want to home this car
If this is not something you consider at least considered owning, you know, it's not the most practical type of vehicle
But if you drive this thing you start to make excuses for reasons why you should have it
and
And it's not it's not horrible. No you quality
You know just driving down the street if you put it in the touring mode, it doesn't make a lot of noise
but if you can get past the noise which you know a lot of people like
It's really a comfortable car. It doesn't ride too too rough or anything like that. So
Overall I'm very impressed with all those car drives
Well guys we hope you enjoyed watching this in-depth look at the 2019 Chevy Camaro SS
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Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 vs. Dodge Challenger Hellcat vs. Chevy Camaro ZL1 — Muscle Car Comparison
Edmunds:
CARLOS: In an
Edmund's exclusive,
here's the ultimate
muscle car comparison.
We've got the Chevy Camaro
ZL1, Dodge Challenger Hellcat,
and Ford Shelby GT500.
These cars have never been
as powerful or as capable.
We have them outfitted in
their highest performing
configurations.
The ZL1 one has the
1LE track package,
the Hellcat is the
Redeye wide body,
in the GT500 has the
carbon fiber track package.
And they're all automatics, too.
We've already done
the drag race.
Go watch that video if
you haven't already.
To do these cars justice
in a proper comparison,
we're going to find out which
one's the fastest around a road
course, which one's the most
fun to drive, which one sounds
the best, which one has
the most useful interior,
and which one does
the baddest burn out.
First, let's acknowledge
our obvious biases.
Kurt is a Ford owner.
Elana lot as a dodge owner.
And I'm a Chevy owner.
ELANA: I also have a
Plymouth and Pontiac.
KURT: How are
those brands doing?
ELANA: Kurt, you
are mean, but fair.
The point is, it
all cancels out.
We're on an even playing field.
CARLOS: So which one of
these cars is the ultimate?
Let's find out.
All
ELANA: Right we, have three
extremely powerful cars
behind us.
And not only are
they full of horses,
they're also quite capable.
Like, they can go
around road horses,
they're good on the street.
But if we are going to
call them muscle cars,
there is one thing that
they have to be able to do.
KURT: Burnouts.
CARLOS: Exactly.
KURT: Yeah.
CARLOS: So we're going
to do this comparison up
on the right foot by doing
a burnout super test.
Rules are simple, from
a stop, start a burnout,
and then go for distance.
Longest burnout wins, but you
can't use your brake pedal.
This is a measurement of
just pure, raw horsepower.
If we see your brake lights,
you're DQed, because science.
ELANA: Yeah, I mean,
burnout scientists say that.
CARLOS: Yeah.
KURT: Yeah.
CARLOS: All right, stability
control off, trac control off,
manual mode engaged.
I'm going to try to shift as
manually through the gears,
try to avoid red line.
And we'll see how this goes.
SPEAKER 4: Carlos
in 3, 2, 1, go.
CARLOS: That was weak.
So the burnout won't
carry through an up shift.
You're basically limited
to whatever first gear
red lines at.
Was just a practice run.
SPEAKER 4: All right, Carlos.
3, 2, 1, go.
That's a burnout.
That's a burnout
without brake use.
Normally, you would use
the brakes to of course,
control the speed so you can do
the longest burnout possible.
But without brakes,
that's a burnout.
OK, I don't feel so
embarrassed anymore.
The trick, though, was
to leave it in automatic
and let the transmission
shift itself.
Because if I tried
to shift manually,
it would end the burnout.
And the only thing
that did-- well,
it didn't do much of a burnout.
The only thing it really did
make me question my manliness.
ELANA: Well, and also,
like, whether or not
you were truly an American.
We were a little
worried about you.
CARLOS: I was worried myself.
So we are still--
ELANA: I think you're
still going a little.
CARLOS: See some--
KURT: I'd say it ends
we're right about here,
because I don't really
see anything past there.
CARLOS: It's going to take
a vote of two out of three.
KURT: Yeah.
ELANA: I mean, that's fine.
Yeah, I can see it.
CARLOS: 187 foot burnout.
I'm OK with that.
ELANA: I mean, it
definitely gives us
something to shoot for.
KURT: All right, burnout time.
I want everything turned off.
And I'm going to get some
wheel spin with the brakes,
and then let it rip.
I'm not going to
shift it itself.
I'm going to let it handle it.
So wish me luck.
SPEAKER 4: 3, 2, 1, go.
KURT: Well, that
was kind of spicy.
Squirrelly.
Not the best.
ELANA: You know, Kurt, I was
expecting more of a smoke show.
I mean, it wasn't bad.
CARLOS: Looks to me like it
was worse than the Camaro.
ELANA: Yeah, I have
to say, the whole no
brakes thing so that you
can't really torque up on it
and get them spinning,
that's a hard rule.
CARLOS: You know,
but it's also--
that the only way to
make it scientific,
because you can probably
drag the brakes,
I'm thinking, and do a burn
out for the entire duration
of the straight.
But it didn't look like that
could do a standing burnout.
KURT: I don't know what it is,
but it just wouldn't really
break the barriers loose,
and I just kind of had
to build up a little bit
RPM and then just floor it.
CARLOS: It seemed like you
had to let the clutch engage.
KURT: Kind of, sort of, yeah.
CARLOS: And then you just
rode out through first.
But then you shifted into
second, and it ended.
KURT: As soon as it hit
second, it hooked up,
and the thing
catapulted forward.
CARLOS: Still seeing
lines, though.
ELANA: Yeah.
KURT: Yeah, I mean,
they're still there.
CARLOS: They're just
getting fainter.
KURT: You know, the car does
have a full tank of fuel.
That's one weight.
CARLOS: And we just ate lunch.
KURT: I mean, that is
burnout out science.
CARLOS: Yeah.
The funny thing is it
looks like it resumes
when you get it in a second.
ELANA: Yeah.
CARLOS: But it stopped here.
ELANA: It counts.
It brakes, it counts
KURT: Yeah.
CARLOS: Second gear burnouts are
cool, but only if it continues.
Longest continuous burnout.
So we'll call it 124--
ELANA: 124, 125?
CARLOS: Yeah.
124.
KURT: I appreciate
your generosity.
ELANA: I'm excited and
a little bit nervous.
SRT mode.
I'm going to use the same
one I use for drag racing.
And then let's get the traction
control all the way Off
SPEAKER 4: 3, 2, 1.
CARLOS: Bravo.
KURT: Yes.
CARLOS: Bravo.
KURT: Yes.
ELANA: Does that count?
KURT: Did that count?
I like how polite you were led
off after you trounced them.
You were, I don't have to
go any farther than this.
CARLOS: You're a
gracious winner.
ELANA: I think it's my win.
CARLOS: OK.
You were a gracious winner.
ELANA: I know but,
it's just so fun.
CARLOS: Yeah.
What I like is it's
not just the length.
It's how dark the tire is
relative to the Mustange
and the Camaro.
ELANA: You know why?
Because that thing is heavy.
And when it's sticking it
down, it's sticking it down.
CARLOS: I'm actually wondering
if we have enough measuring
tape.
We may have to put
down a marker somewhere
and do some math afterwards.
ELANA: I mean, at least
there's no question about where
it ends.
You know, I was born
here, but I feel
like today is the day I
truly became an American.
CARLOS: Your birth
certificate has just
been laminated in the test.
ELANA: They're going
to put a picture of me
in the White House.
KURT: So we've gone
way past where my mark.
So 200 plus.
Beyond 200.
200 plus.
CARLOS: Should we call it?
Give her 200 plus?
ELANA: No, I want
every single inch.
CARLOS: You want every inch?
ELANA: Yeah.
CARLOS: That's going to take
forever to reel that in, yeah.
But--
KURT: I'm going to say--
and it almost keeps going.
ELANA: No, it's like yours.
It starts and it restarts.
KURT: Right here.
ELANA: Right here?
CARLOS: We're pulling.
KURT: So that's--
CARLOS: We'll call it 250.
KURT: Yeah, let's
just call it 250.
CARLOS: Just because,
what's the point
of specificity at this point?
KURT: Got down there.
ELANA: Chuckle it up.
Losers.
KURT: That's going
to be here forever.
ELANA: I think they
can see it from space.
Before we go any further,
guys, can we just-- can we just
take a moment and process
what's happening here?
We have three cars,
three American pony cars,
with an average horsepower of--
CARLOS: 736.
ELANA: You do that
math in your head?
CARLOS: I did it before.
So smart.
ELANA: He's super smart.
But that's nuts.
736 is the average.
You don't need a racing license.
You don't need to have
previously owned a lesser
model from the same brand.
Like, any one of us could just
walk in-- if we had the money--
and then drive out
in one of these.
KURT: You're not old
enough to buy a beer,
but you're old enough to walk
in and buy one of these cars.
ELANA: That is very
kind of you, Kurt,
but I am actually over 21.
CARLOS: Let's talk
about what makes
each one of these cars special,
and let's start with the Dodge.
ELANA: Sure, I mean,
I did not expect
to be standing here saying
this but this 797 horsepower
wide body Redeye Challenger
is the least extreme car here.
I mean, it doesn't have a
giant carbon fiber wing.
It doesn't have
cool little arrow
running all along the side.
Even the hood, while
functional, is kind of subtle
compared to these two.
And I think that's because
both the Camaro and the Mustang
are really focused
on road course use.
It's not that the Redeye
isn't track-focused.
It's just it's inspired by
Dodge's barely legal drag
racer.
So the technology
that's on it is
more drag race focused, right?
It's got like, a
chiller and supercharger
so that the air that
goes in is really cool.
So you can just keep running
it-- at it all day long.
Has great apps and
infotainment systems
so you can track all
your quarter mile runs.
Got a line lock.
You can do great burnouts.
It's got floor seats.
You can put your
whole family in it.
It's got heated and vented
seats, a heated steering wheel.
Good radio.
Like, you can just drive around
and use it like a normal car.
But it's not exactly the
same usage plan as these two.
CARLOS: Totally.
The Camaro, I believe,
is the underdog here.
It's got the least power at 650.
That's the bottom end of the
spectrum in this comparison.
It's the lightest.
It has the least amount of
interior space, has the least
amount of visibility, too.
Lowest price.
And least treadwear.
These tires have a
treadwear rating of 100.
ELANA: So that's just
basically smooth, right?
CARLOS: We're going
to change them just
after looking at them today.
They're going to be done.
But that speaks to the
car's race track intentions,
like you mentioned.
It's got the 1LE track package,
which gives it the wing,
gives it the arrow on the front.
And it gives it these
really trick fixed dampers
that are definitely
for racetrack use,
not for daily
driveability comfort.
This thing is firm.
But it goes round
racetracks really quickly.
And it's still the least
expensive car here.
And in spite of that, it's
got some really cool tech,
like performance
traction management,
that really sophisticated
stability control
system that actually
helps you drive faster.
It's got an onboard video data
logger it's got electronically
control locking differential.
You can get it with a manual--
ha, ha, ha.
ELANA: OK, all right, yeah.
CARLOS: And it's
going to ask tested
price that's 20 grand
less than this Mustang.
KURT: About the price--
we'll come back for the price.
The Camaro is old and the
Challenger is even older.
So it is a brand new car, so
you will pay a slight price
premium.
But it has the smallest engine,
but it makes the second highest
amount of horsepower.
760 horsepower from
a 5.2 liter engine.
This particular car is equipped
with the carbon fiber track
pack, which is why the
price goes up over $94,000.
But with that, you get these
really tricked carbon fiber
wheels.
And to my memory, there
are only two other cars
in the world that
use them right now.
So--
CARLOS: And one of
them is a Ferrari.
KURT: Yes.
ELANA: And is the
other the Ford GT?
CARLOS: Yep.
KURT: Also part of the
carbon fiber track pack
is that cool rear wing and
the lack of a rear seat.
You can't be taken seriously
if you have a rear seat.
So this car is serious.
It also has MagneRide
shocks which are perfect.
They handle the occasional track
use or the constant track use.
They handle highway driving.
I think this car is the
best all around performance
car of the three.
ELANA: All around
performance car.
Performance is great,
don't get me wrong.
But that's what
track stuff, right?
And how much time are you
going to spend on the track
versus on the street?
CARLOS: The idea of
a practicality test
with these cars seems silly,
but if you think about it,
it makes sense, right?
If you're going to
take one of these cars,
you're going to buy
one of these cars,
you're going to go to a track.
You're going to
go to a racetrack.
And you're probably going to
want a backup set of wheels
and tires.
Unless you have a trailer,
those wheels and tires
are going to need
to go somewhere.
ELANA: Like in the car.
CARLOS: Yes.
ELANA: Yeah.
And I mean, I don't think it is
silly to do a practicality test
on these cars,
because I really think
that most of the
people who buy them
will have them on the street
more than they'll have them
on the track.
For those folks, just
pretend that these tires
are groceries or babies.
KURT: Those are big babies.
CARLOS: We're going to try to
fit as many wheels and tires
into these cars as possible.
Points for a number of wheels
in tires that we can fit
and the amount of time that
we can get them all fit by.
3, 2, 1, go.
ELANA: Oh yeah, we're
going to be fine.
KURT: Those are huge tires.
CARLOS: They're big tires.
ELANA: OK.
I got this.
I'll be fine.
KURT: Yeah, let's help.
CARLOS: Yeah.
ELANA: Got that?
KURT: I got it.
ELANA: You think we can get two?
KURT: No.
CARLOS: Well, that
doesn't matter, then.
I think we get one
in the back seat.
You guys do the other backseat.
KURT: OK.
CARLOS: I'm glad
we bagged these.
ELANA: Let me get that for you.
KURT: Thanks.
Oh, you have a nice
little power seat.
Good.
ELANA: Oh, do you not?
KURT: Don't need it.
Yet.
ELANA: I mean, once
I'm at the track--
CARLOS: And time.
One minute, 21 seconds.
ELANA: Beat that.
There's no room for
you guys in the car,
so how am I going
to get them out?
CARLOS: All right,
Kurt, 3, 2, 1.
Go.
ELANA: Whoa, that's
a lot lighter.
CARLOS: Don't help him.
ELANA: But he helped me.
CARLOS: Don't-- come on man.
KURT: Fine.
ELANA: Sorry, you're
on your own, man.
CARLOS: He gets the advantage
of carbon fiber wheels.
He has lots of interior
space for a crushing weight.
So the lack of a back
seat is an advantage here.
ELANA: Yeah.
I think he's
definitely going to be
able to get two in the
back and one in the front.
CARLOS: Three wide.
He might go three
wide across the rear.
I feel like a Sports
Center caster.
KURT: Can you guys shut up?
CARLOS: Oh yeah, he's going
to do three in the back.
ELANA: No.
CARLOS: This is a real Happy
Gilmore moment right here.
ELANA: This is wild.
But what if it doesn't fit?
CARLOS: He might actually--
that's a really--
ELANA: If it doesn't fit, he's--
CARLOS: If he's
going to do all--
oh!
Shut the door, shut the
door, shut the door!
Not only did you
get all four in--
one minute, 16 seconds--
so you did it
faster than we were
able to do with the Challenger.
ELANA: And you could
bring a friend.
CARLOS: But you passed so
out of breath right now.
KURT: Shut up.
CARLOS: You are not
running any races.
KURT: Oh, no, I'm not.
You're next.
CARLOS: Oh boy.
KURT: 3, 2 1.
ELANA: Are we helping?
CARLOS: This is going so badly.
KURT: No.
CARLOS: So badly.
ELANA: It's actually half as big
as it looks from the outside,
and it looks small
from the outside.
CARLOS: Done.
I think I've got this.
KURT: He's at one already.
CARLOS: We'll all go to
the track together, right?
KURT: Yeah.
What are you doing?
That's my seat.
CARLOS: Done.
Call it.
KURT: One minute, 36 seconds.
If you weren't last, we would
probably disqualify you.
ELANA: You didn't
even shut the door.
CARLOS: It's inside the vehicle.
There was nothing in the rules
about shutting things or being
able to drive away.
Camaro loses the
practicality test.
ELANA: Yeah, that's impractical.
CARLOS: That's very impractical.
KURT: It is one thing for
these cars to look bad ass.
But it's something else entirely
they don't sound bad ass.
CARLOS: We should measure this.
KURT: Yeah.
CARLOS: If only we
had a sound expert.
It's not revving
above 3,000 RPM?
It's in neutral.
I've tried it in park.
This wouldn't happen
with a manual.
ELANA: It'll only go to 4,000,
and then it just stops you.
I mean, how am I
going to impress
my neighbors with 4,000?
KURT: Yeah, I don't
have a limiter.
It just let me rev all
the way to 7,500 RPM.
CARLOS: Mustang handily
wins the sound competition.
ELANA: It's almost like
the Mustang engineers
knew what people might
want in a muscle car.
CARLOS: Now we've got a
winding track behind us.
And we're not going to find out
how fast they are-- we're not
going to lap times just yet.
But we're here to find out how
these things drive as cars.
Should you be afraid of them?
ELANA: I mean, I think a lot
of people are afraid of them
because they are so powerful.
But there's no reason to.
I mean, they are
surprisingly drivable.
CARLOS: This is
an important thing
to find out, because even if
you are going to race track,
you still have to drive there
and you have to drive home.
So we're going to find out how
they feel in that situation
or on your favorite
mountain road.
ELANA: Is it a problem if my
entire review of the Redeye
is just me driving and giggling?
This car is so fun.
There is a lot of stuff
that people can rightfully
complain about.
But that's not it.
It's big.
I mean, every time I go around
a corner I'm slowing down,
probably a lot more than
Carlos and Kurt are going
to have to in the
Camaro and the Mustang,
because I can feel all
the weight of this car.
But if you trust it, then
sort of like a hippopotamus
in ballet shoes--
it's capable of
surprising grace.
And also--
Oh my god.
Whose idea was this?
I'm sorry, I'm going to
take this more seriously.
These days, because there's
no contemporary equivalent
of say, the Chevelle, the pony
cars have become muscle cars.
And certainly, the Challenger
meets all the definition
of a muscle car which,
is the company's biggest
engine in its sort of
sporty its midsize car.
This is a midsize car and
that is the biggest engine.
6.2 liters, a
supercharger that is
bigger than some engines, and
of course, 797 horsepower.
These seats are great.
And they're huge.
In fact, one of the things
when you are on track
is you kind of move around
a little bit in them.
They're not a tight fit.
But when you're on
the street, they're
very, very comfortable
and kind of plush.
They're also heated
and vented, which
is an excellent luxury
in a muscle car.
As I go around this corner,
visibility is not great.
This is a big pillar.
It is better than
say, in the Camaro.
And it's about equal
to the Mustang.
None of these cars are
fantastic for seeing out of,
because they're huge.
They have these
really long hoods.
In the case of these
performance versions,
they have really
high hoods, too.
I mean, I'm sitting pretty high
up just so that I can see over
the bulges in the hood.
If you're familiar with
any of the Hellcats,
there are three modes.
There's sort of a street mode.
They call it auto.
A sport mode, which
is really kind
of more of a drag racing mode.
Kind of gives you
a lot more burnout
in a straight line action.
And then there's a track mode,
which tightens everything up,
makes the shift really hard.
You can also make a custom
mode, which is great,
because if you like the sound
and the shifts in track mode,
but you like the steering
better in straight mode,
it's up to you, baby.
You can do whatever you want.
This car really does
it best if you just
let the speed automatic
do all the work for you.
Just don't try to second
guess the machine.
Let the robot win.
Suspension-wise and
like ride quality-wise,
the Challenger absolutely
destroys the other two.
Or rather, the other two
will destroy your kidneys
and lower back,
and the Challenger
will be like sitting
on the couch.
So yes, this thing is huge.
Compared to the other two
cars, it's kind of a monster.
But there's a benefit to that.
And that benefit is a
more comfortable ride
and obviously, more space.
I mean, the Mustang doesn't
even have a backseat.
And the Challenger--
heck, road trip it.
I think if you put all
three cars together and said
which one most meets the
definition of a muscle car,
the Challenger would
win, hands down.
The other two at this point
are almost sports cars.
And then of course, sports
cars have become super cars.
Where will it end?
Don't ever let it end.
CARLOS: The Camaro ZL1
one on a winding track.
We're going to treat
this like a country road
and talk about the things
that make the Camaro ZL1 1LE
fun to drive.
There's a lot to talk
about in that respect.
Yes, this car lost the
sound coolness tests
and you know, barely squeaked
by the usability test.
But the way this thing drives
remains its primary attribute.
And I've got to admit,
with the exhaust and track
mode, when you're not trying
to rev it while idle, it
does sound very good in here.
It's a deep baritone roar.
It's not a lot of
nuance to the sound.
It's just sort of
loud, and in your face,
and brutish, and broad.
But you got to admit,
that sounds good.
And we have a 10
speed automatic that
can make shifts that quick.
It's a weird situation because
this supercharged V8 has
such a broad torque delivery.
And yet when you're
really on it,
the transmission is
shifting, and RPMs
are dropping in such
small increments,
that it's a weird experience.
You never expect a car
with this kind of power
and this broad of a torque curve
to be able to shift so quickly
and only had the
RPMs drop so much.
I mean, this engine
could be peakier
and use that kind of a different
characteristic of power.
But I got to say,
I enjoy this as is.
Though I might enjoy it
more if I had a manual.
Hmm.
So the 1LE track
package imbues this car
with a lot of really
nice handling attributes.
And they all relate back into
the driving experience when
on a mountain road.
Of course, the tires need
to be at temperature.
That's a major issue
with these cars,
because these are race
track-oriented tires.
When these tires are cold,
they are uncommunicative
and they are slippery.
This morning, it
was in the mid 30s
as we were driving
into the track,
and boy, did the tires have
some trouble with merging
on freeway and whatnot.
But that's what you're getting
into when you get a 1LE track
package.
You are buying
the track package.
You are opting in
to that experience.
That's OK.
But when the tires are on,
they start working really
nicely with these shocks.
These fixed spool
valve damper shocks.
The way the rest of the
suspension is set up,
it is highly adjustable for
the weekend track we're at.
But in the setting it's in
now, it's also fine, too.
Not compliant on the road.
It's pretty firm,
especially over bumps.
It doesn't have nice adaptive
dampers to soak up and adjust
for comfort.
This thing is all
hardcore track use.
But it ties all
this car together.
And you end up with a lot
of confidence in this car,
especially in the front end.
That's important, because
you have so much power.
You need to be able
to trust this thing
to put the power
down and let you get
escape from corner to corner.
It's a big deal.
You get really nicely
weighted confident steering.
When the tires are
working-- again,
that's a caveat we
keep referencing--
but when they're working,
it feels really good.
The Camaro shows its
downsides in normal driving.
You got a peek of that at
the interior usability test
or functionality tests,
where we loaded these cars up
with wheels and tires.
There was no space
left over at all.
And that's a problem
with the Camaro.
The trunk aperture is tiny.
This interior space
feels tiny as well.
The visibility outward
is extremely poor.
It's shocking how tight the
view can be outside of this car.
Also, when it comes to
daily driving, I gotta say,
the 10 speed automatic
does come into its own.
This transmission
works great when
you're pushing it really
hard and when you're just
tooling around town.
It's when you're kind of doing
the half way driving that it's
not as responsive as the
Mustang's dual clutch, which
is very snappy and very
crisp all the time.
This is still a tremendous
machine for road course use.
And one that, ride
comfort aside,
is still civil
enough for daily use.
We still have heated
and ventilated seats.
I think this has heated
steering wheel as well.
You've still got
good integration
through your infotainment with
Apple CarPlay, Android Auto.
Although the screen does kind of
look like it's tilted back in.
That's always been an
annoyance with Camaros.
Still, ZL1 1LE is
the best Camaro ever
at its specific job,
that race track use.
And to say it's not as punishing
as it could be on the road
is quite a testament to its
many skills and attributes.
But just know what
you're getting in for.
There's a lot going on here.
And for the money, I think
this is an incredible value.
KURT: The new Shelby GT500.
So it's one thing to rip
around in a car like this
and drive it like a hooligan.
But most of the time
people drive these cars,
they're not really going
to be in track mode
like I am right now.
They're going to
be in maybe sports,
so let's drop that
into sport, pop it out
of manual mode, and
just cruise around,
and tell you what
it's like to drive it.
Obviously, it makes
a lot of power.
That 5.2 liter engine has
a giant supercharger on it.
Cranks out 760 horsepower.
And yeah, it goes fast.
There's no two ways about it.
But what's really
impressive about this engine
is just how tractable it is.
I mean, I'm kind of
cruising around now
and it's still friendly.
It's quick to respond.
And I've driven
this car in traffic,
and it could care less
that you're in traffic.
It's happy to burble along.
And for an engine with
this kind of power--
I continue to be impressed
with modern engines.
This engine should not be
this easy to drive, and it is.
Putting all this
power to the ground
is smooth because
of a seven speed
dual clutch automatic
transmission.
The other to use a more
traditional automatic setup.
But this is quick shifts, crisp,
and not abrupt or jarring.
It's still really responsive.
Wow, listen to that.
I mean, I want this
in my everyday car.
I'm going to put this into
Normal mode now and just cruise
around like a normal person.
Now these are pretty good tires
these are Michelin Pilot Sport
Cup 2 tires.
And that's compared to
the ones on the Camaro,
they're fairly run of the
mill high performance tires.
I mean, you can find these
on any old Porsche 911.
But these tires talk to you.
And they have good
grip when they're cold,
they have good grip
when they're warm.
Every aspect of this car
makes it a friendly car.
And you can't say
enough about it.
In case you hadn't noticed
from all the other pictures
of this car, it has ginormous
brakes on the front.
It has the 16.5
inch brake rotors.
And the calipers-- yeah,
they're six-piston calipers,
but they're gigantic
six-piston calipers.
A car like this
shouldn't be this
easy to drive at high speed.
It shouldn't be this easy
to drive at low speed.
I think Ford's really
found the GT500 sweet spot.
I'd argue this is the most
well rounded performing car
of the group.
You've got comfort
when you want it,
you've got speed
when you want it.
You got sound, you got
quiet, you got everything.
And if you've got the
money, You should probably
buy one of these.
So we've had some fun.
And ride over there
is a road course.
It's short, but it's fast.
It should be fun.
And I think we should
do some time laps.
ELANA: Well, if we do
time laps, then we really
need those to be consistent,
so probably the same person
should drive all three.
CARLOS: Oh, dibs.
Can't fight dibs!
KURT: Come on, dude.
ELANA: He's right, though.
You can't fight dibs.
KURT: I hate him.
ELANA: Carlos, you ready?
3, 2, 1.
Punch it, baby.
KURT: I'm surprised
that car turned.
ELANA: They made
an effort with it.
And it also has steam rollers
of rubber underneath it.
KURT: Does it?
Can I say across the line?
ELANA: Yeah, do it.
KURT: Is that trademarked?
I have no idea if
that's fast or not.
ELANA: 38:37, Carlos.
3, 2, 1.
go.
KURT: He tried to get
clever with launch control.
ELANA: Do you feel like
that worked for him?
KURT: No.
ELANA: I mean, I know he's
tried to warm up these tires,
because they are a lot fussier.
KURT: This looks a bit faster.
ELANA: It does look fast.
36:11.
KURT: 2.2 something
seconds faster.
CARLOS: That launch
control sucks.
What happened?
ELANA: That wasn't so hot.
CARLOS: It was great,
then it was bleh!
It was like, what?
What's going on?
ELANA: Do you feel like
you need to try it again?
CARLOS: No, it's
Chevy's problem.
ELANA: Well, it was still
faster than the Hellcat.
CARLOS: Good.
As physics would dictate.
KURT: And it sounds
decidedly less bad ass
and the Hellcat does.
CARLOS: I'll tell
you what, though.
best tires here.
KURT: Yeah.
ELANA: Pony Boy, you ready?
3, 2, 1.
Go!
CARLOS: Love that
seven speed in the car.
ELANA: I like how there's
just a hint of supercharge.
CARLOS: Yeah.
KURT: Woo.
Don't let him know.
He'll just get a big hit on the.
Camaro
CARLOS: How did I do?
ELANA: I believe your car
won because that was a 36:27.
KURT: Do I leave the Camaro now?
CARLOS: Even with a bad launch?
KURT: Yeah.
Those tires, man.
Those tires.
CARLOS: OK, let's recap.
Winner of the test
numbers, Ford.
Winner of the burnout.
ELANA: I vaguely remember the
Challenger doing pretty well
there.
CARLOS: Utility, board.
KURT: Sound board.
Fun on the mountain road?
Three way tie?
ELANA: Yeah.
I mean, I think we all had fun.
CARLOS: Three way tie.
Time to hot laps?
KURT: Oh, Camaro.
That's its job.
ELANA: Yeah, I don't think you
need to be super good at math
to figure out that the
Mustang handily takes us.
And I would be mad--
I mean, I wanted the
Challenger to win, It's so fun.
It should be
celebrated for that.
But it's had its time at the.
Top and if it inspired something
as good as the Mustang,
I mean, I feel kind
of proud about that.
I don't think it
takes anything away
from the Camaro
or the challenger
to recognize how
good the Mustang is.
CARLOS: Yeah, all
three of these cars
are really good at their
specific jobs, right?
The Challenger is a factory.
The Camaro takes road
racing very seriously.
People who are really into
going around racetracks fast
and don't want to spend a lot
of money, the Camaro 1LE ZL1
is an incredible value.
But still, you gotta acknowledge
what that GT-500 delivers.
KURT: I'm shocked at just
how well-rounded it is.
I mean, previous iterations of
the GT500 have been really fast
and they've been really
loud, but they just
haven't had the breadth, the
practicality, and handling
ability that this new one has.
And it is brand new.
Both of those other cars
have been around for a while.
So Ford has had a chance to look
at them and learn from them.
But it's just-- it's
such an impressive car.
CARLOS: And not only is it
the ultimate muscle car,
it makes you re-evaluate
what your expectations are
for a muscle car.
And that's why it easily
wins this comparison.
ELANA: Yeah, no question.
KURT: Yeah, I agree.
CARLOS: So thanks for watching.
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your car shopping needs,
helping you pick the right
car at the right price.
You guys remember the M4?
ELANA: Vaguely.
KURT: Oh yeah
ELANA: Like, Supra
wasn't that a car.
CARLOS: It wasn't
even that long ago.
KURT: No.
CARLOS: AMX.
I think they make those anymore.
ELANA: Pontiac Firebird?
KURT: Cuda.
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[Marton] After 40 years of Falcon versus Commodore,
welcome to the new V8 rear-drive grudge match.
Camaro versus Mustang.
[Bruce] Come on Marty, this one writes itself.
The Mustang is newer, it’s cheaper, it’s
got more gear.
[Marton] Bruce, the Camaro is more exclusive,
it’s got a bigger V8 and it looks the duck’s
guts.
[Bruce] So what are we going to do?
[Marton] Well, one of two things, road or
track?
[Bruce] Well what about both?
[Marton] For once, we agree.
If you’re watching this you’ll know the
latest Mustang is the first global factory
model.
While the Camaro comes to us via HSV which
is converting just 550 examples initially
and that’s why they’re a lot more expensive.
Both are 2018 models but while that means
the Mustang GT is upgraded with a 10-speed
auto and new driver safety aides, the Camaro
misses out on them but matches the Ford for
power and beats it for torque.
At $86,000 plus on-road costs, the Camaro
is almost 20 grand pricier than the Mustang,
but that hasn’t stopped up to 80% of them
being pre-sold.
[Bruce] So Marty, one of the big talking points
about the Camaro is being the local right-hand
drive conversion job by holding special vehicles.
I’ve got to say, I’m pretty impressed.
They’ve done a great job.
It’s almost to OE standard, I reckon.
[Marton] I agree.
You’d be hard pressed to pick at it.
If anything, the Mustang looks more like a
conversion than this because the handbrake
and the volume knob are both on the wrong
side.
[Bruce] Yes, you’re right but I reckon there
are a couple giveaways in the Camaro.
Well, I get the armrest while you get the
cupholders.
You get to put your elbow on the cupholder
which is something that they obviously haven’t
spent the money on.
[Marton] Not ideal.
But something they haven’t been able to
change is the dash, which is plastic.
They’ve left it all right-handed.
It’s plastic.
Something Mustang doesn’t have.
[Bruce] No, Mustang has a higher level of
presentation than this car.
I think the Mustang has an advantage.
It’s got a broader width of capability in
terms of, with those optional MagneRide dampers,
you can go from just toodeling around on them
or wind them up into sport plus mode and you’ve
got a pretty firm riding car.
This car, is just firm all the time.
[Marton] It’s the biggest difference between
them, isn’t it?
This is just tied down, old school.
It’s not compliant like the Mustang.
[Bruce] No, not at all.
No, the Mustang has got an advantage there.
[Marton]It’s the more complete car.
[Bruce] I’ve got to say, I love this Chevy
small-block, it winds and winds, it just pulls
like a train.
[Marton] Enormous mid-range, sounds okay,
only really sounds good up top but the Mustang
sounds good everywhere, doesn’t it?
[Bruce] It does.
And that Mustang, gee, it can even rev so
quickly.
[Marton] And the 10-speed auto, it’s almost
like a dual-clutch isn’t it, compared to
this?
[Bruce] It is so quick and it reacts early.
Braking for a corner, you’re lifting the
throttle and it reads and it goes bang, bang,
two gears.
Whereas the 8-speed in the Chevy, it’s slower.
[Marton] Sure, it’s a bit slower.
It doesn’t always do what you want it to
do.
The Mustang is always in the right gear.
People say it hunts, I disagree.
It’s busy but of course it’s going to
be busy with 10 speeds.
So on the road, these two muscle cars are
pretty evenly matched.
But the bumpier the surface gets, the greater
the Mustang’s advantage.
And it’s also more comfortable to live with.
But as they say in the classics, when the
flag drops, the bull dust stops and the let’s
face it, straight line speed is what these
pony cars are all about.
Despite the Mustang’s dragstrip mode and
the Camaro’s willingness to break traction
even mid-strip, the Chevy was consistently
quicker by about a tenth to a hundredth and
more than two tenths over the quarter-mile.
So just as I suspected, the Camaro is quicker.
[Bruce] Yes, you got me but only by a fifteenth,
Marty.
And I know one thing, I’m going to be more
comfortable than you riding home to Melbourne
today.
[Marton] Well you enjoy that Bruce, because
when I get home, I’ll be the only bloke
in my street with a Camaro.
[Bruce] So you take the Camaro, I’ll take
the Mustang and we’ll agree to disagree.
[Marton] It’s a deal.
Let’s hit the road.
2018 Chevrolet Camaro SS vs. 2018 Ford Mustang GT | Comparison Test | Edmunds
Edmunds:
CARLOS LAGO: In
the early 60s, Ford
introduced a car called the
Mustang that was so popular,
Chevy decided to follow
suit and introduced
its direct competitor,
the Camaro.
And since then, really
not much has changed
MARK TAKAHASHI: No, the formula
has definitely stayed the same.
But man, the total sum has
increased dramatically.
CARLOS LAGO: Yeah,
we've assembled
to the latest variants
of these pony cars,
as the way you should probably
order them, with the V8.
Now, these aren't
performance package cars
but these are the
cars most people are
going to end up buying.
We've got them here to see
how these two modern versions
of the pony cars stack up.
[CAR ACCELERATING]
All right, Mark, it's up to you
to sell me on the 2018 Mustang.
MARK TAKAHASHI: It should be
pretty easy because number one,
I can see.
Look, you can see turns.
CARLOS LAGO: This is
true but also listen.
[CAR ACCELERATING]
MARK TAKAHASHI: Oh,
that sounds amazing.
CARLOS LAGO: That
sounds really good.
I swear that's louder
than the Camaro.
MARK TAKAHASHI: It is.
CARLOS LAGO: In this world
of Camaro Mustang, loud wins.
MARK TAKAHASHI: And this has an
active exhaust option for you.
You can do a quiet
start if you don't want
to wake up all your neighbors.
But it sounds so
rad anyway, I think
they'd be cool with it, right?
CARLOS LAGO: But tell
me about this five liter
because I see it's
revving higher.
How does it feel?
MARK TAKAHASHI: It feels great.
You know, it's kind of got
some of that high revving
personality of that GT 350.
CARLOS LAGO: Yeah.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Which
I really, really dig.
CARLOS LAGO: Who doesn't?
MARK TAKAHASHI: But
just like the GT 350,
the first time I got in
this and started really
driving it hard, I realized
I was short shifting.
CARLOS LAGO: Really
MARK TAKAHASHI: I could
let this wind way more out
CARLOS LAGO: Because
you've got so many more
revs to play with than you
would traditionally expect.
You're used to a V-8 being kind
of a low revy kind of thing.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Right.
CARLOS LAGO: But then when
you have above 7000 RPMs,
it's fun when you realize
you can play with it.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Oh, yeah.
CARLOS LAGO: So you've got
a big, digital display.
How do you like that
in the day to day use?
MARK TAKAHASHI: I
really, really like it.
You know, and I get that some
people are traditionalists.
They want to see the old gauges.
CARLOS LAGO: Yeah and it's
optional though, right?
MARK TAKAHASHI: It's an option.
CARLOS LAGO: OK.
OK.
So you can have traditional
gauges if you like.
But yeah, I like that the
tach moves like a bar graph
when you're in the track
setting, like we are now.
MARK TAKAHASHI: So this
is the new 10 speed auto.
The whole point of that is,
you know, quicker acceleration.
You know, shorter
gears, down low,
teller up top so you
get fuel economy.
I dig that and everything,
but this is a Mustang.
It should have a stick shift,
it should have six gears.
And there's sometimes
this little, weird delay
between when you
hit the up-shift
and when it finally does.
CARLOS LAGO: Oh, so when you're
controlling the gears manually
there's a bit of a delay?
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah, I've
been in paddle shift mode
ever since we set off here.
So, see?
It's not just that immediate.
CARLOS LAGO: Yeah.
MARK TAKAHASHI: It's still
really freaking good.
CARLOS LAGO: Yeah.
MARK TAKAHASHI:
But there's still
that romance of muscle cars
where you should have a stick.
CARLOS LAGO: You want to
be able to bang gears?
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah.
CARLOS LAGO: That's
how you feel good.
That's when you feel good is
when you just shift it quick.
This is not a
performance packed car.
MARK TAKAHASHI: No
performance options
on this except for
maybe the exhaust.
CARLOS LAGO: And the V8 engine.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yes.
Yeah, I mean I like it.
It's compliant it's
still comfortable.
The way this transitions
out of a turn I really dig.
You get on that
power early and it
starts straightening you out.
It's happy.
CARLOS LAGO: It seems like
it's giving you a quite a bit
over-steer on the power out but
in a really nice controllable
way.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah, I
mean that's the thing.
They tune that
stability control really
well where if you start
getting it a little sideways
but you're still
on the throttle,
it'll let you do it up
to a certain slip angle.
CARLOS LAGO: Yeah.
MARK TAKAHASHI: But once
you lift out of it, then it
will snap you
right back in line.
CARLOS LAGO: That's nice.
MARK TAKAHASHI:
Man, I mean I really
like the way this
comes out of turns.
Just a little bit, little
bit and it just starts, yeah.
CARLOS LAGO: Yeah.
MARK TAKAHASHI: That
little snap out of it.
I really dig this car.
CARLOS LAGO: How do
those breaks feel?
MARK TAKAHASHI: Solid.
I mean these aren't performance
upgrade brakes either.
CARLOS LAGO: Yeah.
MARK TAKAHASHI: The pedal,
it's you know, moderately firm.
Easy to modulate,
that's for sure.
CARLOS LAGO: I just
can't quite get over
the sound this thing makes.
MARK TAKAHASHI:
Isn't that great?
Let's go to like a
normal mode, shall we?
CARLOS LAGO: Yeah, you
get your Rogers mode.
MARK TAKAHASHI:
This is the problem
with this toggle switch.
It only goes up.
It should go down, as well.
CARLOS LAGO: This is quiet.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah.
There's a lot less
bass going on now.
CARLOS LAGO: Ford
clearly defines quiet
differently than I might.
[TIRES SQUEAL]
MARK TAKAHASHI: This mid-cycle
refresh is a little bit more
than the typical
mid-cycle refresh.
I mean, they have the
adaptive suspension,
they have a lot more safety
features, cool options,
like the instrument panel.
I really like this.
[CAR ACCELERATES]
CARLOS LAGO: This
is the 60th annual.
MARK TAKAHASHI: I
know, I like them.
CARLOS LAGO: But because you
can do things like this--
MARK TAKAHASHI: Oh.
[CAR ACCELERATES]
Oh, no lift.
CARLOS LAGO: And on top of
that, it also has red matching.
So it's basically an automatic.
And so this is the Camaro SS
that we all know and love.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Love?
CARLOS LAGO: Love.
That's what makes
a Camaro a Camaro.
MARK TAKAHASHI:
Wait, that's Subaru.
CARLOS LAGO: Ssh.
So we're down five horsepower
and a couple pound feet
of torque, I forget.
MARK TAKAHASHI: It's completely
irrelevant at this point.
460 versus 455.
CARLOS LAGO: Well,
I was also going
to make the point that this
car is about 50 pounds lighter.
So the whole power and torque
deficit comes out about even.
MARK TAKAHASHI: I think so.
CARLOS LAGO: When
you get down to it.
What I like about this car,
what I like traditionally
about Camaros is the
handling balance.
This is a big, meaty car.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah.
CARLOS LAGO: With a
ton of low end grunt.
With a ton of power that you
can do that, which is terrific.
MARK TAKAHASHI: It
just sounds like you're
going to break something.
CARLOS LAGO: Well, you
know traditionally,
you would break something.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yes.
CARLOS LAGO: And so what I
like is that they actually
took the time to build
that into the system
so you don't have to worry
about breaking anything.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Right.
Ooh.
CARLOS LAGO: It's
just so satisfying.
MARK TAKAHASHI: It really is.
That is impressive.
CARLOS LAGO: Now,
getting back to like
the dynamics part of it, yes,
this car has no visibility.
It's basically a
window-less van.
MARK TAKAHASHI: I don't know,
the visibility bothers me.
I don't have a really
good grab handle here.
CARLOS LAGO: Does this look like
the face of somebody who cares?
MARK TAKAHASHI: Fair enough.
[TIRES SCREECHING]
But here's the
thing, do you think
there's a dynamic difference
between these two cars
that is a deal breaker
one way or the other?
Because I, personally,
I have just as much fun
with both cars.
CARLOS LAGO: That's
the truth of it.
Isn't it really?
The difference is the
badging on the hood
and that's basically it.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Right.
So what are we fighting for?
CARLOS LAGO: We're not.
Well, the Camaro is
obviously better.
MARK TAKAHASHI: No, no, no.
It just, no.
No, the Ford is less flawed.
CARLOS LAGO: It's really
one of those things
that like we've always been
at war with Eurasia, right?
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yes.
CARLOS LAGO: It's just
this constant rivalry
that goes back and forth.
But fundamentally, you end
up with the same vehicle
with minor variations.
And so it comes
down to, basically,
what's your preference?
I prefer that, which is great.
But I'm sure there's
qualities in the Mustang
I would also like, as well.
But this is a fine
handling vehicle
that handles with a delicacy
and a light-ness that
kind of belies its size, right?
MARK TAKAHASHI:
Well, the styling,
too makes it look chunkier
and heavier than it is.
CARLOS LAGO: Yes, absolutely.
From the six speed manual to
the red match buttons that
toggles on the steering
wheel, the standard Camaro SS,
I'm going to say,
bare bones, it's
pretty much what you'd
expect in this kind of car.
I like the interior
layout, I like
the way things were arranged.
Like this is a very
classical panel right there
with the double bubble gauge.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah,
and this coved out
section here is kind of you
know, heritage Camaro stuff.
I like the design, I really,
truly like the design.
I think it's pleasing to
look at but in practice, it's
got some issues for me.
CARLOS LAGO: The big issue,
of course, is the visibility.
And then, there's just a couple
of like, weird annoying things.
Like the way the screen
seems to be angled inwards
so it looks like
it's sloping down.
Doesn't effect how you use
it, it just looks weird.
And then you have a problem
with these center vents.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah, they're
really great for cooling down
your knuckles but nothing else.
What I do like is when
you turn that bezel,
it adjusts the temperature.
That's really cool.
I think that's kind of almost--
CARLOS LAGO: It's clever.
MARK TAKAHASHI: --Audi-esque
in its execution.
But they need to be up here.
I mean, they're right
on your knuckles.
CARLOS LAGO: The
important stuff,
like the speedometer
is easy to read.
You have big, analog gauges.
You have a head up display
that's configurable.
All the important controls,
steering wheel, shifter,
clutch, pedals, all fall to
hand and foot really easily.
The drive mode selection
stuff's really easy to use.
It's this stuff like
interior storage
and like the wireless charging
pad being back here, which--
MARK TAKAHASHI: What?
CARLOS LAGO: --is just strange.
MARK TAKAHASHI:
That means you're
going to forget your phone
in here all the time.
CARLOS LAGO: I
don't know why you
would use that because if
you have a nice, smart phone
here you're going to use Android
Auto or Apple CarPlay, which
requires being plugged--
MARK TAKAHASHI: --the USB.
CARLOS LAGO: --into here.
But this compartment
isn't big enough
to fit most modern smartphones.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Right.
From the passenger
side, and I noticed
this when you were throwing
us around on track.
Is the passenger doesn't
have very good grab handles.
There is nothing for
me to hold on to here
and this is hard plastic,
right in my elbow.
That's something
that you don't have
to deal with in the
Mustang or at least
your passenger won't have to.
CARLOS LAGO: So overall,
it's a lot of stuff
that doesn't really matter when
it comes to driving quickly
but stuff that does make
this car a little bit
not so nice on the
day to day commute.
MARK TAKAHASHI: It's not
completely different.
It's a mid-sucker refresh,
they have some new features
here and there.
But most importantly, is this
digital instrument cluster.
CARLOS LAGO: The optional
gauge cluster, right?
MARK TAKAHASHI: It is.
It's so cool.
If you switch drive
modes and it kind of
gets this racy kind of
tack bar across the top.
CARLOS LAGO: I like
that bar graph tach.
That's really cool looking.
MARK TAKAHASHI: It is.
CARLOS LAGO: Yeah.
MARK TAKAHASHI: The difference
between this and the Camaro,
I think, there's less flaws.
CARLOS LAGO: OK
MARK TAKAHASHI: Number
one, we can see out of it.
CARLOS LAGO: That's nice.
Yeah, I really appreciate
being able to see
outside of the vehicle.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah.
It doesn't feel like you're
wearing the suit of armor
and you're just peeking through
a little tiny mail slot.
Materials quality, I
think is slightly better.
Like, my elbow points
are nicely padded.
And for you probably
you might be
bumping into that a little bit.
CARLOS LAGO: I like that
I have a grab handle.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah.
CARLOS LAGO: When in panic mode.
I don't have one
on the left side
but I have one on the
right side, which is
I think better than the Camaro.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah.
CARLOS LAGO: But I
like the general layout
of this interior.
It feels a little
bit more airy, it
feels a little bit more open.
And it'sl probably to do with
the increased visibility.
But also the way the center
stack is designed here,
this just has a nice flow to it.
MARK TAKAHASHI: And look,
the vents are up top.
CARLOS LAGO: The vents work.
And they've been
able to you know,
keep the influence of like
the 60s design elements--
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah.
CARLOS LAGO: --in the dash but
also add the modern touches
that still make it work.
MARK TAKAHASHI: The
dual dash thing now.
There are some things
that still bother me,
like this little
dash topper here
and this center
of thing up there.
Those are carryovers and
they really seem out of place
because everything else seems
to be quite a bit better.
CARLOS LAGO: So this
car and the Camaro
both have an optional
exhaust volume options.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yes.
CARLOS LAGO: This one has the
option, the Camaro doesn't.
MARK TAKAHASHI: This one,
compared to the Camaro,
goes to 11.
CARLOS LAGO: I
think it passed it.
MARK TAKAHASHI: This is rad.
[THROTTLES GAS LOUDLY]
(GRUNTS)|
CARLOS LAGO: That's ridiculous.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Even
better is the quiet mode.
[THROTTLES GAS QUIETLY]
Ooh, that's quiet.
You can schedule when
it's going to be quiet.
So between midnight and 7:00
AM, I have it set for quiet.
So no matter what, I don't
have to hit that button.
CARLOS LAGO: Your
neighbors don't hate you.
MARK TAKAHASHI: They
do but not for this.
CARLOS LAGO: What
I really appreciate
is the amount of interior
storage you have in this car.
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah.
CARLOS LAGO: From
you know, you only
have two cup holders
and stuff like that,
but you have center pockets.
And the center console
is a bit bigger.
And just things in here feel a
bit more livable, day to day.
If there isn't like any enormous
performance differences,
it's certainly like more--
MARK TAKAHASHI: Yeah.
CARLOS LAGO: --attractive
for the commuter.
MARK TAKAHASHI: But
in the back, the trunk
is way more usable
than Camaro, too.
It has a lower lift
over, it's a bigger trunk
it's, it's way more useful.
So if there's one thing about
muscle cars that's important,
it's fun.
And in my opinion, both
the Camaro and Mustang
do fun equally well.
CARLOS LAGO: Yeah, I love
the acceleration in both.
They both have
fantastic transmissions
and they're both a lot
of fun to slide around.
MARK TAKAHASHI: That
said, I think the Mustang
does everyday life better.
CARLOS LAGO: I agree.
The Mustang is an easier
car to live with everyday
but for some reason I still
enjoy driving the Camaro more.
MARK TAKAHASHI:
That's what we think.
Let us know what you think.
For more information
on the Camaro,
the Mustang, or any
of its competitors,
head over to edmunds.com.
And if you want to see
more videos like this,
hit subscribe.
[MUSIC PLAYS]
2016 Chevrolet Camaro SS Wirelessly Charges Phones While Doing Donuts | Mashable
Mashable:
This is the 2016 Chevy Camaro SS, produces
455-horsepower and has Wi-Fi, bluetooth and
wireless charging. So essentially it's like
a V8-powered Wi-Fi hotspot, but more than
that we want to find out if it can wirelessly
charge this phone while also doing donuts.
- Still charging?
- Yes, it is.
- Excellent!
Well, so what are you up to today?
And we're still charging.
Chevy you've done it again.
I'm going to definitively mark that as a win for
Chevy because now it's official: You can do
donuts while wirelessly charging your phone.
Who wouldn't thought?
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